CREBheads - 2004 August 004

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  1. Question; Kevin Sukdolak, 2004-08-31
  2. Re: Question; Lee Brewer, 2004-08-31
  3. Re: Question; Mike Csorbay, 2004-08-31
  4. Ghost Embossing; Patrick Young, 2004-09-01

From: Kevin Sukdolak
Date: August 31, 2004
Subject: Question

Hi! I looked at an insulator of mine yesterday. A common Brookfield. Interesting thing is the "field" part of "Brookfield" seems to be ghosted above itself faintly. I don't think I have a good enough camera to catch it. It appears in an italics slant and looks like maybe it could've happened by being upside down and tilted real quick. I know... nothing major in anybody's wants, but just checking with you to see if you saw anything similar.


From: Lee Brewer
Date: August 31, 2004
Subject: Re: Question

Hi Kevin,

This sounds like a neat looking CREB145! Although Brookfield is known as a company had little time for quality control, ghosting probably was not considered to be something they would probably cull (more nice pieces for us to collect!). Ghosting is something which occurred in (probably) all manufacturing plants. It occurs when glass is initially put into the mould, the glass comes to rest in the embossed letters (numbers, whatever), and then the glass is pushed out of place by more glass entering the mould after it (remember that insulators were made upside-down from how they were used).

Due to the nature of this 'process' of ghosting, you would be hard pressed to find two that appeared identical. Some of it happens such that you wonder how it ever got where it is. My friends Mike Csorbay & Debbie Kinloch have a skirt-embossed Canadian beehive (GNW Tel Co. I think) where the embossing is vividly ghosted on the very peak of the dome! It is interesting to think how difficult it must have been for the glass to be pressed into the embossing (which was located at the 'top' of the mould -- the skirt end got the glass first) by other molten glass -- and then it traveled downward, somehow displacing/working around the glass that had pressed it into the embossing on the side, to become the glass that made the peak of the dome!

I know I have pieces with ghost embossing. One of them that comes to mind is a CREB145 SN10 (shop number 10 on the crown) that has ghosting such that most of the embossing looks like the engraver made all of the letters double on the crown. Keep looking at CREB's at shows / wherever you can find them, and I am sure you can come up with other interesting examples.

Happy collecting!

Lee
The King CREB


From: Mike Csorbay
Date: August 31, 2004
Subject: Re: Question

Hi Lee & Kevin:

Although it's not a CREB, here is a pic of the piece Lee was mentioning in this e-mail earlier today...

http://www.insulators.info/pictures/?id=97317591

Not the world's greatest pic, but you get the idea...

Many thanks to Bill for the webspace for this CREB group!, and to all the "CREBheads" who will make it work. Enjoy! We are...

Mike (& Debbie).

BTW, I'm not a serious, dyed-in-the-wool CREBhead, but have enough interest in them to keep an eye out for what's unusual, so that I may trade them to you-all for some good Canadian glass that might be lurking in your collections!! Bwa-ha-ha!! ;-)


From: Patrick Young
Date: September 01, 2004
Subject: Ghost Embossing

Fellow CREB heads...

I just posted a couple of nice examples of ghost embossing. The first is a true CREB and the second is a CD 152 Brookfield. Click the links... Hope you enjoy!

Pat

http://www.insulators.info/pictures/?id=98657093

http://www.insulators.info/pictures/?id=98657443


 

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